chrisruzin.net :: French Military Victories (January 29, 2003)

wow, i think this whole thing may be gettin way off topic, I don’t like the French. I have posted negative comments supporting that, but in retrospect, i see that France isn’t all that bad. During the wars they won, the soldiers were mostly French and Napolean conquered Europe commanding a French army. They Wouldn’t be a world power if they completely sucked nor would they exist. America has helped them and they have helped us, nations have always helped eachother for their own gain. Nobody ever seems to complain that Belgium or any other country was easily defeated during WW2, France has always been the target of ridicule because of any easy defeat against the massive force of Hitler’s army, which was at its peak after Poland was taken(think about it they were big enough to fight Russia the UK and the US as well as its allies for how long?), but were it not for that, we wouldn’t be making fun of them. French people should apologize for being snobby and acting like they are Gods gift to earth and we as proud Americans must stop pointlessly making fun of everyone because we are (99% sure) better then the rest of the world. Maybe if we were more humble to the rest of the world and not abusing our rights to free speech and other freedoms, the rest of the world would want to help us and support our actions. Doesn’t anyone realize that China and Russia are now in cahoots to destroy us. Sorry for the long comment.

Also, that google search still cracks me up whenever I think about it. But seriously i meant all that stuff from the last comment…..I’ll shut up now.

you guy look brilliant … French army is among the best of the world and n°1 in Europe, the french foreign legion is the elite of elite and for uncultivated people there is 40% of french in the foreign legion (they’re called “gaulois”) and every officers are french. We are a sovereign nation and unlike UK we don’t accept the US military presence in our country. We got the best airforce in Europe because our Mirage 2K can shoot down every shitty Tornados. UK got the best marine but. German rules on the ground with their Leopard. We don’t depend on echelon system. And we don’t surrender at each time. I can talk about 100 years wars (Castillon and Formigny without Jeanne d’Arc), Marignan (6000 french won against 14000 swiss), Fontenoy and Lawfeld (poor Cumberland), Beachy Head (naval victory against british marine) and victories during the reign of Napoleon (Corse is a part of France as Hawaii and Alaska are a part of USA, so Napoleon was french) http://www.igreens.org.uk/french_victories.htm because the list is quite long !!
But several major defeat as Waterloo (74000 french against 77000 british and 88000 prussian), Trafalgar, Dien bien phu, Malpaquet and many others …
Don’t believe frenchmen are coward, go to the battlefield of Verdun and you would understand what is the determination of a french soldier, moreover, in this place, you will understand why we are disgusted of war.
If you are not convinced, watch that : http://www.exile.ru/2003-October-02/war_nerd.html

“The 2nd French Foreign Legion Parachute Regiment was in-country, and they would have come to help us. If you get in the Legion’s way, doom on you.”

i want to see the head of george washington if you say to his face : “battle of yorktown is not a victory because french army was there” no doubt, it’s really funny !! it’s a joke ok but you have to go along with yourself … And in france we take that like an insult to the memory of french soldiers who died for their country since 1000 years. We have honoured the GIs who died in Normandy and many other, so respect our army and don’t care about political games between USA and France. American are proud of their army, so do the french.

The Frenchj havenet wonm anythingf without our help, the glorious English have always come to the aid of our poorer southern coutnerparts. When we have fought the French the mighty English armed forces have always come out on top – Traflagar, 200 years of majesty

you kind of people are tiresome, i can list several battles won without english help, or against english army. And sure, the mighty english were glorious at Dunkirk 1940, Sebastopol 1854, and many more.
Well, battle of Hastings sounds disgreeable to you, isn’t it ?
To conclude, every country has known defeats and victories, France, UK, USA , Germany, Russia, Japan, etc. But if a country usually lose his wars, how they could exist today ? If the Duke of Normandy lose at Hastings or English won at Yorktown, I don’t think the history would be the same. France stills exists since 1000 years How ? we preserve our borders (with or without alliees), unlike Harold …

The English Army!? Are you kidding me? You have’nt had an army since you lost the 100 y war. The best fleet in the world, yes. But no bullshit about the brits having an army. And about that so called army. Wern’t they the first to jump boats in WW2, Dunkirk anybody? French got beaten solidly in WW2, yes. And thank god the brits live on an island, or you would have been smached to pieces aswell. and you know this to be true. About the American performances: in WW1, to little to late. French forces made up about 70% of the allied forces. And a god part of te casualities, mainly because those frech cowards stormed barbed wire/machine gun defences armed with bajonetts. is that guts or what? idiotic command, but still guts.

By the way, does any of you american know any military history? I defy you to find any american victory on the same premises as the ones mentioned above.

Quote/ defy you to name a french military victory that DID NOT include a third party… Oh, and, by the way, Napolean ISN’T FRENCH! And the French Revolution? Although it wouldn’t have supprised me if they tied, they were, um… fighting French on Both sides…/Quote

good luck…I thik I made a pretty cohesive list of french dito above. May I suggest some reading matrerial?

www.wikipedia.org

To stop the insane amount of americans talking out of their arses.

Exactly my point. On the contrary, several french victories could be listed above. I simply asked of you what was expected of me. And off course I knew it would be slighly harder. i even ihink that grenada is the ony one that qualifies. The brits did at least humiliate Argenitina in your so called back-yard (impressive effort by the Para2 BTW).

My point was that a country practically barren of history of any kind should keep their ahistorial past in memory when talking about European affairs. Say a decent percentage, like 10-20% of your entire polulation, has died on a battle-field over the remnants of your home, enemy and allied artillery has blown your soil to a barren waste. Every woman left on the wrong side of the border has been raped. If your still as warmongering then, then I may take the insult. Not before.

Oops, about the “defy” remark. Defie in french means challenge, mostly to a swordduel, and then afterwards the more intellectual varieties. forgot the more “cocky” meaning in American english. Sorry, English is only my forth language. And France is about a millenia older than USA, and the fact that the american nation is born in french blood, and steeped in french Philosohy can then be left unmentioned.

I also get a kick out of american ignorant => Seven Years War. Everybody know that Montcalm was vastly outnumbered and could’nt expect reinforcements from France. Because France had to preserves their borders against Prussian. William Pitt ruined UK in order to make this war and has sent more than 30000 british soldiers to Canada. For all that, Montcalm and french troops were better because they won several battles in numerical inferiority : Ticonderoga 1758, 16000 well trained british soldiers against 3500 french (major part of milician), result :British were routed. But at last, in 1759, Quebec, Montcalm lose for lack of regular troops from France. It’s not humiliating, our soldiers used to fight with courage.
And we aren’t badmouthing the US, your country has help us so we are thankful, but when we see “Boycott french products” or “cheese eater surrender monkey” we don’t understand why. I guess it’s a differend between bush and chirac, not much, and mustn’t be a differend between american people and french people.
Chris, If I meet an american in France I won’t insult him or critisize USA, but i’d rather invite him to taste our wine or good cheese.

Way, let’s say like this then. Did the war in Iraq (the cause of debate) go as the Bush administration had planned? or could a more another approach, say one approved by the UN have turned out differently?

“Say a decent percentage, like 10-20% of your entire polulation, has died on a battle-field over the remnants of your home, enemy and allied artillery has blown your soil to a barren waste. Every woman left on the wrong side of the border has been raped. If your still as warmongering then, then I may take the insult. Not before.”

Point being, don’t rush into these kind of things.

We don’t believe all american are arrogant, stupid etc. We just think it’s a media hype against France, Fox news is the responsible. But some americans think Fox news is right. Then they really feel angry against France. To my mind it seems to be a propaganda.

You say it’s a joke but the repercussions can be serious, so don’t cross the red line. You can say what you want against Chirac, we don’t care a damn about him but respect France and french army. We love and support our country and his values (liberté, égalité, fraternité) ; not the president (money, lies, power and money). I can say Chirac, Bush, Poutine, Blair, Berlusconi are bunch of crooks but I respect Russia, UK, Italy, USA and their armies.

I don’t think there is a big difference, cracking some jokes with your friends is a thing, ridiculizing something or somebody in public is another thing and i haven’t seen yet a website about fatty american. We make fun of belgian people and they make fun of french people but we don’t speak about boycotting their product or making a website in order to ridiculize them.

Sorry, i haven’t found a site which ridiculizes americans in french. “gros americains” => this is an image for a basic american. gros doesn’t mean fat in this image but just basic.It’s not a physical description. If we say “gros allemand” => a basic german. It means a german who likes drinking beer, drives a big car as audi or bmw and speak as he gives hell.
Seriously, we have something else to do than making a website which ridiculizes americans, fat or not.
Now do a search for \”#### france” or “attack france” or “france sucks” or “anti-france” or “french military victories”, amazing, isn’t it ? There is no comparisons possible.

You’re right but I don’t think those kind of website make things better.
I believe it’s really disappointing that open minded people (like you) doesn’t show the good example. He said american sucks so I reply french sucks, it’s not very constructive…

watch that :
http://www.informationwar.org/news/french_students_not_welcome_june2003.htm
It’s a disgrace ! Even if it was 2 years ago.