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Michael Jackson Is A Pedophile

The Smoking Gun has copies of previously secret court papers of the 1993 court case against Michael Jackson.  WARNING!  There are detailed descriptions of what went on between Jackson and the then 13 year old boy.  Only read it if you have a strong stomach.

After reading them, I don’t know how Michael Jackson didn’t get jail time.  Actually, I do know.  He’s a famous superstar who has hundreds of millions of dollars.  The relationship the kid describes looks innocent enough until after several months.  Then things go completely wrong.  Michael Jackson has SEVERE problems and should get serious help.  Superstar or not, he should be in jail and listed in the pedophile database.  It’s sick.  Sad and sick.

nelly's gravatar nelly United States January 14, 2004

he is a pedophile but instead of people alway’s talking about him why don’t they pray for him and wish him the best

tatou nasser's gravatar tatou nasser Private January 15, 2004

michael has a strange behaviour, he could have done it. he is a nasty boy

sactofunk's gravatar sactofunk United States January 15, 2004

Hi. How do any of you people KNOW whether he is innocent or guily? Because the tv or the radio told you so? How many of you are working as legal counsel on one side or the other of the case? Oh yeah…ZERO! Stop speculating because the only people who know anything about this case are the lawyers conducting discovery. Another thing, just because the Smoking Gun published detailed accounts means absolutely NOTHING. Anybody can accuse anybody of anything. Think about it. The more detailed a complaint is drafted, the more persuasive it sounds. It is called a legal strategy. What you all may not know is that unless the complaint is verified, it really isnt worth that much. By verifying the complaint, Plaintiff attests to each and every fact under penalty of perjury. Was this complaint EVER verified? If not, dont be soo persuaded by the details becaise it doesnt HAVE to be true until it is verified!

William Jorgensen's gravatar William Jorgensen Australia January 16, 2004

We don’t need to see him convicted to know his idea of “child welfare” is askew, sanctofunk. His dangling of his child over a balcony like it was a chimp was good enough for any parent to know he is dangerous to children. It also shows that his supporters are willing to forgive him anything. If he’d done that in Australia he’d have his children under a Department of Community Services order and would’ve been in court to fight for custody of his own children! Clearly, American child welfare is non-existent, which is why he’ll get away with it. In America you can do anything and get away with it if you have money or fame or, even better, both.

TSB's gravatar TSB Canada January 18, 2004

Top reasons why Michael is innocent but the press won’t focus on these reasons to keep the people guessing:

1: Uri Geller, Jackson’s spirtual advisor, hypnotized Jackson for fun. However, he did something that was very rude but proved Jackson innocence. He asked Michael (while hypnotized) if he molested the 13 year old boy back in 1993. Jackson replied no. Uri then asked why he paid to settle the case. Jackson replied that he had enough. He couldn’t take it. And it is reported as fact that 98.5% of the people hypnotized tell the truth unconsciously.

2: How can the kid write such a good report on what Jackson did to him on specific nights. Also, the boy doesn’t have to 100% write the report. Anyone could help him out.

3: The boy in the 1993 scandal described Michael’s genital region, and they were innacurate.

4: A pedophile once in every 10 years doesn’t seem right. If you’re a pedophile, you would’ve molested many children by now and no other kid came forward when asked if Michael molested them.

5: Why is the prosecutors brother the only witness to this? There are many other children who sleep in the same bed. A third party is always around.

My thoughts: Michael is innocent. When the boy was featured in the documentary “Living With Michael Jackson” along with Michael, they asked Michael to give them some money for the appearance. Michael refused. Then the family got upset and got the same lawyer that was in the 1993 molestion charges.

William Jorgensen's gravatar William Jorgensen Australia January 21, 2004

Top reasons why Michael Jackson is guilty:
1. He’s got Uri geller as a spiritual adviser! This guy was found to be a charlatan years ago. He used acid under wax to weaken the metal in the spoons he was supposed to be able to bend “with his mind”, and he admitted it!
2. The kid wrote a detailed report, that very few people will know about before the trial.
3. The boy in the earlier trial settled for millions out of court. His father was heard recently as saying that he couldn’t believe that people were stupid enough to let their kids near Jackson after his son’s experience!
4. I’m surprised he got caught, he’s always been able to afford to pay off everyone else.
5. He sleeps with other people’s children, and he’s 45 years old.

My belief is that he is a spoilt brat for an adul,t who expects to get away with anything he does because he is wealthy and carries celebrity status. I bet he does get away with it, just like O.J.Simpson…

BIGSCAN's gravatar BIGSCAN United States January 25, 2004

I don’t care what anyone in the media says, THIS TIMELINE VINDICATES MICHAEL AND IS THE ABSOLUTE REASON THIS CASE IS WEAK!

To have Michael molesting Gavin from February 7 to March 10, 2003 while the DCPS is investigating the family from February 14 to February 27, IS RIDICULOUS!

I BELIEVE THE MEDIA KNOWS THIS CASE IS BOGUS. THE TIMELINE GIVES IT AWAY. AND THAT’S WHY YOU FIND VERY FEW WHO WILL DISCUSS THE CASE AND THE TIMELINE TOGETHER. BECAUSE THEY DON’T EVEN WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW IT.

When a Bill Oreilly can get on Fox and say “We don’t know what happen, we weren’t in the room.” Well if it’s based on the mother’s story told to the DCPS, SHE KNOWS SINCE SHE SAID HER CHILD WAS NEVER ALONE WITH MICHAEL.

In addition, I would come back to the TIMELINE. Michael met this boy in 2001. WHY NO MOLESTATION OF GAVIN ALLEGED UNTIL AFTER LWMJ??? Remember it was the holding hands and Gavin admitting to sleepin in his bed that brought the suspicions, so much so, that the DCPS got involved and CONDUCTED INTERVIEW WITH ALL FAMILY MEMBERS. During that investigation, ALL FAMILY MEMBERS DENIED IT, including the boy.

Not only were the family members denying this, they were GIVING INTERVIEWS TO JOURNALIST! One of those interview was dated Februay 9, 2003.

The family also signed AFFIDAVITS under PERJURY in February 2003!

The family also had a 20 MINUTE TAPED INTERVIEW DENYING IT. A CNN reporter HEARD THE TAPE AND SAID THEY SEEM RATHER RELAX DISCUSSING HOW MUCH THEY LOVE MJ.

So, WHY AFTER LWMJ, IN A 1 MONTH SPAN, WHEN EVERYONE IS INVESTIGATING, MICHAEL DECIDES TO MOLEST DURING THE INTERVIEWS AND INVESTIGATIONS WHEN HE HAD 2 YEARS TO DO IT WITHOUT?:lol

THE MEDIA THINKS THE PUBLIC IS STUPID! THAT’S THE REASON THEY WILL NOT DISCUSS THE TIMELINE AND WILL RUN FROM IT.

William Jorgensen's gravatar William Jorgensen Australia January 27, 2004

TODAY Debbie Rowe, the mother of Jackson’s two oldest children began a law suit to regain custody of her children, FEARING FOR THEIR SAFETY. She revealed that not only was the marriage a sham to legitimise the custody of the children, the sperm donor WASN’T EVEN JACKSON! That explains the color of the kids quite well. What surprises me is that he was so lazy he didn’t bother to donate the sperm himself. What? They didn’t have any good porno down at the labs he could get off on? So what does he want with kids not his own? One may well ask!

Wayne Buckwheter's gravatar Wayne Buckwheter United States January 28, 2004

All during these years I’ve been taking medications for depression. Shaffel took us boys on trips on a regular basis. We often went to the ranch for day trips and also extended stays at
the Stowaway Motel and Park DeVille. When I was about 11-12 he started letting me drive his car. I was a sick-boy who attended random funerals and burials at the local cemetery. I sat next to Shaffel in his car and that began the fondling which became a constant. He would let me steer his car as he drove and he reached over and put his hand down my pants and fondled me continuously. As time moved on he allowed me to put my foot on the gas pedal so I was actually driving the car. Driving his car was the most important thing in my life at that time, 1985 on. Of course I could drive at any speed and mostly I drove at 70mph and above, many times over 100mph. Shaffel would read his “office” as I pedaled the gas and used the steering wheel. He held his camcorder in his left hand, right hand molesting me, my left foot on the gas and my left hand on the wheel. He read for an hour or more. We made countless trips like this.

Matt Gifford's gravatar Matt Gifford United States January 28, 2004

Any parent who lets their kid go within 100 yards of Michael Jackson should be shot. The upside is that we may find out whether or not Jackson really is a smooth criminal.

Monte Bender's gravatar Monte Bender United States January 28, 2004

Contrary to popular opinion, this mutated blob of silicon particles was once an actual person. Michael’s dad must be a towering monument to cruelty. At first glance, a worthy man. But how did this rampaging barbarian manage to raise a placid little fairy like Mike? My guess is he had sex with him. So maybe this dad character isn’t cool after all. I guess just because someone is a sadistic son of a ##### who beats their children with tree branches, it doesn’t automatically make them cool. Because they might also admire five year old penis. But if you expect me to feel sorry for Michael just because his dad is a fucking psycho, then you are sorely mistaken. Just take a look at these photos, and then realise that this china doll could quite easily purchase your entire suburb, bulldoze it, and construct a primate zoo.

Michael Jackson once appeared to be a perfectly normal homosexual. This was before he owned a children’s amusement park. I know, it’s hard to imagine a time before Michael Jackson kept a stable of chimpanzees, but it did exist. And in this mythical period, Michael enjoyed a position in showbiz society that was roughly equivalent to God’s dad. But then he turned himself into a legoman. Nobody knows why. Look Mike, who cares if your dad whipped you, you’re a fucking millionaire. Of all the people in the world equipped to deal with the crippling psychological pain of a tree-branch attack, you are the one. So why did you start loving kids, chimpanzees, and surgical masks? All you had to do was take your pain and bury it deep down inside, so that you would never bother anyone again.

But no. Just like Milli Vanilli and AOL Time-Warner, Michael Jackson had to #### things up. The only good thing he’s done in the last decade is marry Elvis Presley’s daughter. Now that is a fucking kickass thing to do. Elvis was the most elite drug taker ever, so Michael could have bragged about that. Plus, for the two days that Nick Cage and Lisa Maria were married, Michael could say to Nick: “HAHAH your wife was married to Michael Jackson”. Somehow I don’t think Michael’s mind was focused on these wonderful opportunities though. Sadly, it’s far more plausible that he was thinking along these lines: “Hoot, squeak. Eeeow!” Which is what he said at a recent court appearance. Michael then began to make faces at courtroom observers, in the same manner as I imagine his pet monkey Bubbles welcomes guests to its sexual love cage of pleasure.

JWAlk's gravatar JWAlk Canada February 1, 2004

Michael is innocent. That is all that matters. Dumb ass pricks are the only ones to believe a man that saved many children lives would hurt a child in return. People who believe the media don’t know #### about this world. Read the facts!

William Jorgensen's gravatar William Jorgensen Australia February 1, 2004

It never ceases to amaze me that people support celebrities for no other reason than that they are celebrities. JWAIk seems to think that Jackson is innocent without adding any why’s or wherefores. He probably believes OJ Simpson is innocent too. lol American justice is a huge joke after the O.J case and everyone in other countries expects Jackson to get away with it for no other reason than that he’s a rich American. America surely must be a hole…

Anna's gravatar Anna United States February 15, 2004

I don’t usually care for celebrity news. But this whole MJ thing is tragic yet compelling. That poor kid who is the alleged victim; whether MJ is guilty or not, that kid’s life is ruined forever, don’t you think? I don’t think I can say whether or not MJ’s guilty; however, the fact that this is the second time he’s been conviced of this makes you wonder….Do normal (nonpedophile) people usually get convicted of child molestation even once, much less twice? I do have a question to ask MJ fans, though—why do you think he is singled out more than other celebrities? That seems to be the going mantra of MJ fans and MJ himself. Is it a conspiracy theory? Why him more than other people? The argument that since he’s talented he must be innocent is a false argument; it’s like saying that because some of these convicted pedophile priests were religious and pious, they could never have molested children (this is often why children do not report their abusers: they think no one will believe them. “How can you say Father Pervert molested you? He’s a priest!”). I’m not saying I know MJ’s guilty either, but come on, you have to admit that preliminary evidence suggests some basis for the allegation.

"S&W .500" United States April 2, 2004

That pedophile —EDIT— is gona get off because hes a celeb, black and hes got money. If he was a white guy and molesting black kids, all the african americans would be burning thier house’s in protest, but NOOOOOOOOO, he’s a “poor” black man oppressed but the evil whitey system trying to put him down,,, No one gives a damn that it was kids, irregardless of whether black or white that was getting molested. And IF, IF, he goes to jail, he’ll have his own little cell in a private courtyard —EDIT—.

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There’s no need to conjure up foul-mouthed statements to get your point across.

Chris

chris may's gravatar chris may United Kingdom November 12, 2004

i’d say the thing about the world today is a child molester escaping justice and an innocent adult being falsely accused out of jealousy at their being better off than the accuser, are 2 equally likely scenarios.

Ashley's gravatar Ashley United States December 17, 2004

people just wanna bring him down. the media knows that lots of people are stupid and believe all the crap they see on the Nat. Enquirer when they’re standing in line to buy groceries. for some people, that’s how they get their ‘celeb news’. too bad its incorrect. That’s why people are so convinced he’s guilty. do they bother to look into it? no. they keep their minds closed. the kids who have said michael jackson molested them were probably told to accuse him by their parents b/c they just want money and they know it’ll be a big deal and they’ll get something out of it. and plus, everyone just loves to take stabs at MJ. what happens if he’s proven innocent? is anyone going to STOP? They’d better. but i bet the mdeia’s still going to be mean and keep making up stuff about him and exaggerating things. when michael jackson dies, what will people think of him? a great performer and singer, or a strange man? hopefully people give up on trying to ruin his reputation and just accept that he’s innocent and just has lots of dumb people spreading rumors.

…but, of course, he stills has lots of FANS too…hmmm..ever think about THAT?

i dont think all those fans are crazy. they KNOW michael from serious, truthful, intimate reports. not from stupid cheap magazine covers in the checkout line.

MJ is innocent. the end.

commonsense's gravatar commonsense United States January 2, 2005

There are two types of people ……
FOOLS! And………………………
People that know michael jackson is a disgusting pedophile!

lataneesha's gravatar lataneesha United Kingdom February 9, 2005

ball im a jamaican gal who can’t stand these pathetic white devil bastards who don’t believe michael jus cuz the press say bad thingz u guys r plain ol racist and wrong michael is not a homo,skin bleacher,or pervert or child molester, take it ashley my sista, people just wanna bring him down. the media knows that lots of people are stupid and believe all the crap they see on the Nat. Enquirer when they’re standing in line to buy groceries. for some people, that’s how they get their ‘celeb news’. too bad its incorrect. That’s why people are so convinced he’s guilty. do they bother to look into it? no. they keep their minds closed. the kids who have said michael jackson molested them were probably told to accuse him by their parents b/c they just want money and they know it’ll be a big deal and they’ll get something out of it. and plus, everyone just loves to take stabs at MJ. what happens if he’s proven innocent? is anyone going to STOP? They’d better. but i bet the mdeia’s still going to be mean and keep making up stuff about him and exaggerating things. when michael jackson dies, what will people think of him? a great performer and singer, or a strange man? hopefully people give up on trying to ruin his reputation and just accept that he’s innocent and just has lots of dumb people spreading rumors.

…but, of course, he stills has lots of FANS too…hmmm..ever think about THAT?

i dont think all those fans are crazy. they KNOW michael from serious, truthful, intimate reports. not from stupid cheap magazine covers in the checkout line.
God knoz hez innocent and people lyk gavin arvizo and eminem r eventually goin 2 burn in hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris may's gravatar chris may United Kingdom February 10, 2005

I think it’s 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, ie both false accusations and child abuse have been done. What are we saying, that we can trust the entire human race not to make false accusations even if they have something (infinite wealth in compensation payments) to gain from doing so? Or that society aids the recovery of and repairs the damage done to abused children (e.g. michael jackson) so well that they’d never do it to a child? most abusers were themselves abused as children and just grow up thinking it’s normal as a lot of aspects of modern life are also a pain in the bum. Michael Jackson needs proper counselling, so do any kids he’s been in contact with, so does half the human race before they are born just to prepare them for sharing a world with the notorious “human” race, who if i remember correctly, are equally prone to screwing over anyone they consider fair game.

jm's gravatar jm United States February 22, 2005

Wacko Jacko pedo freak fans “cult members”. Just #### off and die. Jacko is a perv and you know it. Just #### off and die.

Childsmile's gravatar Childsmile Canada February 22, 2005

All evidence to date points directly to Michael Jackson being a pepdophile. In direct relationship is the defence whose ONLY defence has been to try and keep the evidence against Michael Jackson from being heard by a court. If the man was truly innocent, he would have nothing to fear from evidence “against him”. In fact, if he was truly innocent, Jackson would have evidence, himself, supporting that innocence…but there is none, and the defence has not submitted any, which means they have none. So what do they resort to? Name calling. Everybody except Michael is a liar, a manipulator, a con artist, a crack whore, and extortionist. The DA is a man out to get revenge and the officers who arrested Michael used brute force. The fans who speak out on Jackson’s behalf are a made up of dellusional star struck young girls, single mothers who live in the fragments of a dreamworld left over from their teen years, celebrity worshippers, and others are pedophiles themselves who feel they have a stake in the outcome of the trial.

Check out the link and read a wonderful story about a reporter who infiltrated a group of Jackson fans. Read it and you will realize quickly how insane these people are.

http://www.thestranger.com/current/feature.html

Thanks for reading!

Jack's gravatar Jack Germany March 2, 2005

Even the devil himself could buy a halo with enough money. If MJ were really innocent, why doesn’t he ever take young GIRLS into his bedroom?! After all, they’re children, too! ANSWER: He’s a GAY pedophile, sorry he doesn’t like girls.

Randy Lowry's gravatar Randy Lowry Canada March 10, 2005

Well for all you Michael Jackson haters, I am a 49 year old man, who is the father of a young boy, I would give anything to send the codeman (Cody) to Neverland to play and stay with Michael. Your the Best, #### the rest. GO MICHAEL GO My son and I are rooting for you. Lots of love

Randy Lowryxoxo
Ant-Ram's gravatar Ant-Ram United States March 26, 2005

Randy,
It’s compelling that your so convinced of MJ’s innocence, so convinced that your willing to risk your own son’s health, safety and well being?

It’s interesting to read all the various comments posted, but what is missing is the fact that all of us have to admit that even before any of these Child Molestation allegations became public (back in ’93 & now), we all sensed that MJ was truly a lost soul who was extremely weird and unable to function as a normal heterosexual Male. The Black Community” does not support MJ for numerous reasons, so there’s ZERO sympathy for him based upon his being “A Black Male” or his past musical accomplishments. It’s unfortunate that the latest accuser will be dragged through the MUDD to prove the validity of his allegations, but our syste (right/wrong) is based upon
“Innocent until proven guilty”. As a one time MJ fan, who looked forward to his newest CD’s, I’m sicken by just the thought that any of these accusations may be true, because no child (regardless of family background) should not have to endure this type of treatment, whether by a Famous/ Non-famous person, period!

But, I’m even more sickened by MJ’s behavior as he arrives and departs Court each day.
“Attention MJ, you are on trial for your freedom, so please stop behaving as if your walking the RED CARPET during an award show”.

If your innocent, then take this latest situation seriously and behave like a REAL MAN, Ooops, I briefly forgot – you don’t know how!

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