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Tengwar Challenge 5

OK, one week after the last one, here is the fifth Tengwar Challenge.  Again, words in red are ones I’m not sure about.  There’s only one in this Challenge.  Of course, that doesn’t mean all the rest are correct.

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Tengwar Challenge 5

Bob S's gravatar Bob S United States August 30, 2003

Wow. I’m not big on poetry, but that was pretty powerful. I think when you’re struggling to read something (as I was, since this is Tengwar), it somehow intensifies the effect. It’s sort of like salt; salt is not a very interesting flavor, but it serves to help bring out other flavors.

Poetry is tough when you have words like “opes” and “chalice”. “Chalice” was hard for several reasons.

Hope someone can help you with the red word. I looked up the poem, so I know what the original word is, but I have no idea, how it should be transcribed, since this mode seems to have a lot of rules. FWIW, this word is also hard to transliterate to hangul grin

Seb's gravatar Seb United States May 30, 2005

I was searching Google when I found this tengwar text and translated it. It got way easier with each paragraph. It was fun, and I thingk I’ll check out what some of these other chalenges are.

Seth's gravatar Seth United States August 17, 2007

Hey I can’t read any of that Tengwar. The only tengwar I know is different than that. And personally (in my opinion, so not saying much), the version of tengwar I learned is much prettier and easier to read. Sorry if I’m some random person intruding or something. raspberry

Chris's gravatar Chris United States August 17, 2007

There are several different Tengwar fonts out there, a few of which are definitely more elegant than the font I used for the Challenges. I needed something that was a little more clear and consistent than the handwriting or flowing fonts.

I’ll bet you’re either thinking about Tengwar Cursive or Tengwar Annatar?

Seth's gravatar Seth United States August 17, 2007

Actually yes. Those are the ones I’ve used before.

So you’re saying that you think that the form of Tengwar you use is more clear and consistant? What do you mean by consistant?

Chris's gravatar Chris United States August 17, 2007

The two I mentioned are more like handwriting, especially Cursive. They are quite difficult to read in smaller sizes since some of the accents can get lost. Tengwar Sindarin is the font I use here and is almost like a “print” version of Tengwar.

Plus, I’m writing in an orthographic tehta English mode and the Tengwar could look more or less complex depending on which mode you’re using. If you were writing in a full mode like Beleriand you could probably use the more cursive fonts and still be legible.

Seth's gravatar Seth United States August 19, 2007

Sorry but I just wanted to ask one thing…if you knew. But I find it obvious that Tolkien did not use Tengwar Annatar or Cursive when writing in the books (at those designated areas). Do you know what form of Tengwar he did use? It looks like Sindarin as you are using. But I wouldn’t know…

Chris's gravatar Chris United States August 20, 2007

Tengwar Annatar, Tengwar Cursive, Tengwar Sindarin… these are all names of fonts made by others for the computer so we can type with the Tengwar. Tolkien didn’t use any of these. He handwrote all of his stuff.

I think what you’re asking is what mode did Tolkien use? If you are, then he used a couple different modes depending on what language he was using. On the inside covers of the books, he’s using an English mode, which he alters a bit from book to book. If you’d like to learn more about modes and see the different places Tolkien used it, you should check out either Mellonath Daeron or Ardalambion. The latter is more geared towards the languages, but is chock full of info on everything Tolkien.

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